Woah, hold up. Bug’s in a CDC lab without a protective suit on and his number issue at the moment is his dropped Oreo? I’m pretty sure he’s doomed already . . .
Actually there’s a research about the so called “5 seconds rule” and foods actually there’s no such thing as 5 seconds. The moment it touch the floor/surface it automatically transfer stuff from the floor.
But the good news is that a good healthy body is VERY strong. You can eat raw stuff and your stomach will accept it like a champ.
Mythbusters also did the test.
However, I think the 3/5 second rule applies against a really long period after it touches the ground.
If we kinda assumes a normal human artificial ground, it contains little food for bacteria and fungus, so their growth is kinda limited, but food on the ground not only transferred those onto itself, but gives them a lot of food(duh), so the growth of bacteria and fungus(mold) will increase in speed. Thus, even given a relatively clean ground(little apparent sand, dust, dirt, etc.), it is going to have more micro-organism than on the food, but not harmfully so. So after a short period the food landed on the ground, it is still relatively safe to pick it up and eat it. However, after a few minutes, the micro-organism count will undergo exponential growth and that is when it become a problem.
Of course, if the ground is dirty to begin with, it likely already have a lot of micro-organisms, and not a good idea to eat food that touches it. But that situation might not be that desirable to eat as well.(the food that touches the ground will likely have a lot of visible dirt attached to it)
Hypochondriac. You can literally leave that food even hours later if the contamination wasn’t critical in the first place or there are other factors (direct sunshine, easily perishable) . Only because things grow exponentially doesn’t mean that food gets consumed by super magical ninja bacteria from space. Funny enough the floor is probably even cleaner than a tabletop, since it is cleaned with pretty aggressive cleaning agent on a regular basis. Sucking on your index finger might prove to be more unhealthy than eating food from the ground.
Also the believe that one should avoid dirt by all costs is one of the reason we have so many allergy sufferers in the first place. You have an immune system; keep it busy.
look there are arguements for both sides of this. I’m firmly of the belief that people should keep surfaces clean, it’s just common sense (but then again i work in a kitchen professionally so i have to do that as a rule) but there is a limit. if you have your house like a level 2 clean room all the time then any children being raised there will have health issues.
but the same is true for living in squalor. what “someone” was saying is true; if you drop some food (especially if it’s wet food) then bacteria will begin to grow on it. the majority of bacteria take around 20 minutes to complete a full mitosis cycle. yes bacteria grows exponentially, but no, your food wont become a quivering gelatinous mass of bacteria.
i do believe you are taking “someone’s” comment out of context. they never said to “avoid dirt at all costs” also our immune systems are permanently kept busy. do you spend time with any other organism? be that a human, cat, dog, bird, fish etc. then your immune system is being constantly bombarded with bacteria.
just don’t judge someone as a hypochondriac without just cause..
Floor are cleaner? seriously? depend on what floor we are talking about. I once went with my friends to a local Pizza Hut and one of my friend drop his slice of pizza on the floor under the desk. He pick it up and ate it. I was completely grossed out but I try to keep my composure. Why?
1) That table serve a lot of people, probably tens to hundred of people a day. There are a lot of sandals and shoes under there. Sandals and shoes that has been around on any kind of surface.
2) It’s a damn pizza on the floor! cheese are sticky! euuugh!
RAAH, In a warm and humid area, your average kitchen bacteria double their numbers every 20 mins. So I really doubt leaving it there for hours is still healthy, and likely the roaches and salamanders will get there in an hour or so if you leave your food there. Of course, if we are talking about Oreo, or any consumer product biscuit, since they are so dry to begin with(they are manufactured in environments that are at lower than 20% relative humidity) it takes time to get them to be humid enough for the growth of bacteria. However, if we are talking about cake, it is actually more humid than your typical environment(they get stale when dry), so it is not a good idea to leave it too long.
Yes, we have our immune system, but you don’t want it to work overload, because it is almost always the case that bacteria get through your system by chance, and the more you get into your system, the higher the chance they get pass.
Also, when the floor contains lot of dirt, it is not desirable to eat because it affects both the taste and how it feels in your mouth, I just hate having a mouthful of sand or hair, or visible dust which I am sure more are infested with dust mites and my own dead skin that my body discarded to begin with.
BTW, I’m not Hypochondriac, I have a cleaniness compulsion in anything I eat, eat in, eat on or touch with my hands, I don’t really care about germs that much, I just don’t even clean the floor, but I regularly clean my table, and my hands, not because it contains germs, its because it is not in a visibly clean state. Heck, I clean my table even when I spill perfectly clean and germ free detergent on it, and I can’t even stand those sanitary gel that you apply to your hands to kill germs off, the sticky feeling is just disgusting to me.
It’s all a question of the surface and the food. I’d pick up an Oreo off a clean tile floor and blow it off, but I wouldn’t pick up a slice of moist lunchmeat off the dirt.
Yeah, but the fallacy here is the idea that the 5 second rule ever had anything to do with sanitation in the first place. The whole point is that you have 5 seconds to eat it without anybody giving you a hard time over eating food off the floor. The germ thing was an obvious smokescreen from day 1.
I work at Disneyland. ODV overfills the popcorn cartons, so everyone ends up spilling at least a little bit. Sometimes if mom and dad aren’t paying attention, small children will eat the popcorn off the ground. I don’t blame them. It smells really good.
When I’m using a program I expect to fail, I film it. Either it works because it’s being filmed or I have video proof of the failure. Win-win. Until the video recorder fails…
It also depends on the food that is dropped. For me, “dry” type foods (like Oreos) work well with the 5 second rule. Stickier foods (like soft serve ice cream or anything with a sauce), go straight to the trash. It’s more of the “grit factor” rather than concern about germs. I figure germs boost the immune system, whereas the grit is just annoying.
I’ve been known to call in the two four-legged cleaning machines from outside to clean up stuff I’ve accidentally dropped on the floor while cooking. *THEN* I wipe it down with paper towel and spray. Why waste good food, is my motto – if I can’t eat it, they can. and will.
Regardless of any research on the matter… I work at a psychiatric hospital. ANYTHING that drops to the floor gets bathed in sanitizer. I wasn’t a germophobe before this job, but it’s slowly creeping into other areas of life. I’m still not as careful about that at home, but it’s still there in the back of my mind like a slowly simmering pot of germ sauce.
The five second rule was actually scientifically disproven, but the same person who disproved it discovered that most kitchen floors don’t really have E. coli all over them.
Actually the kitchen is the dirties rooms in the whole house. When you’re cooking there are tons of bits begin thrown around (boiling, frying, etc) plus any crumbs or drips that occur. So really unless you’re sanitizing your kitchen every time you’re in there, there is gonna be stuff on the floor.
Personally I wouldn’t eat *anything* I found in a disease lab, even if it were in the break room fridge. I don’t think I’d want to even open my mouth in such a place.
Wow, I was literally just talking about this an hour ago.
And yeah, even though all the germs that can possibly get on it happen as soon as contact with the floor is made, I’ll still eat it. I think people are a bit overly concerned with germs. But for me it does depend on where, the kind of food, if it touched lint, if it’s a rinse-able…all that stuff.
Hmm. There’s probably a way to both highlight the fact that you brought up ebola a year before it invaded the US, AND have it be funny, but I’m comin’ up short, here.
Microwave it?
I’m sure they’d let him borrow an autoclave.
Woah, hold up. Bug’s in a CDC lab without a protective suit on and his number issue at the moment is his dropped Oreo? I’m pretty sure he’s doomed already . . .
Pffft. Oreos are more important than surviving. He’s worried that ebola will ruin the flavour.
Actually there’s a research about the so called “5 seconds rule” and foods actually there’s no such thing as 5 seconds. The moment it touch the floor/surface it automatically transfer stuff from the floor.
But the good news is that a good healthy body is VERY strong. You can eat raw stuff and your stomach will accept it like a champ.
Mythbusters also did the test.
However, I think the 3/5 second rule applies against a really long period after it touches the ground.
If we kinda assumes a normal human artificial ground, it contains little food for bacteria and fungus, so their growth is kinda limited, but food on the ground not only transferred those onto itself, but gives them a lot of food(duh), so the growth of bacteria and fungus(mold) will increase in speed. Thus, even given a relatively clean ground(little apparent sand, dust, dirt, etc.), it is going to have more micro-organism than on the food, but not harmfully so. So after a short period the food landed on the ground, it is still relatively safe to pick it up and eat it. However, after a few minutes, the micro-organism count will undergo exponential growth and that is when it become a problem.
Of course, if the ground is dirty to begin with, it likely already have a lot of micro-organisms, and not a good idea to eat food that touches it. But that situation might not be that desirable to eat as well.(the food that touches the ground will likely have a lot of visible dirt attached to it)
Hypochondriac. You can literally leave that food even hours later if the contamination wasn’t critical in the first place or there are other factors (direct sunshine, easily perishable) . Only because things grow exponentially doesn’t mean that food gets consumed by super magical ninja bacteria from space. Funny enough the floor is probably even cleaner than a tabletop, since it is cleaned with pretty aggressive cleaning agent on a regular basis. Sucking on your index finger might prove to be more unhealthy than eating food from the ground.
Also the believe that one should avoid dirt by all costs is one of the reason we have so many allergy sufferers in the first place. You have an immune system; keep it busy.
look there are arguements for both sides of this. I’m firmly of the belief that people should keep surfaces clean, it’s just common sense (but then again i work in a kitchen professionally so i have to do that as a rule) but there is a limit. if you have your house like a level 2 clean room all the time then any children being raised there will have health issues.
but the same is true for living in squalor. what “someone” was saying is true; if you drop some food (especially if it’s wet food) then bacteria will begin to grow on it. the majority of bacteria take around 20 minutes to complete a full mitosis cycle. yes bacteria grows exponentially, but no, your food wont become a quivering gelatinous mass of bacteria.
i do believe you are taking “someone’s” comment out of context. they never said to “avoid dirt at all costs” also our immune systems are permanently kept busy. do you spend time with any other organism? be that a human, cat, dog, bird, fish etc. then your immune system is being constantly bombarded with bacteria.
just don’t judge someone as a hypochondriac without just cause..
Floor are cleaner? seriously? depend on what floor we are talking about. I once went with my friends to a local Pizza Hut and one of my friend drop his slice of pizza on the floor under the desk. He pick it up and ate it. I was completely grossed out but I try to keep my composure. Why?
1) That table serve a lot of people, probably tens to hundred of people a day. There are a lot of sandals and shoes under there. Sandals and shoes that has been around on any kind of surface.
2) It’s a damn pizza on the floor! cheese are sticky! euuugh!
3) I think I’m getting sick…..
RAAH, In a warm and humid area, your average kitchen bacteria double their numbers every 20 mins. So I really doubt leaving it there for hours is still healthy, and likely the roaches and salamanders will get there in an hour or so if you leave your food there. Of course, if we are talking about Oreo, or any consumer product biscuit, since they are so dry to begin with(they are manufactured in environments that are at lower than 20% relative humidity) it takes time to get them to be humid enough for the growth of bacteria. However, if we are talking about cake, it is actually more humid than your typical environment(they get stale when dry), so it is not a good idea to leave it too long.
Yes, we have our immune system, but you don’t want it to work overload, because it is almost always the case that bacteria get through your system by chance, and the more you get into your system, the higher the chance they get pass.
Also, when the floor contains lot of dirt, it is not desirable to eat because it affects both the taste and how it feels in your mouth, I just hate having a mouthful of sand or hair, or visible dust which I am sure more are infested with dust mites and my own dead skin that my body discarded to begin with.
BTW, I’m not Hypochondriac, I have a cleaniness compulsion in anything I eat, eat in, eat on or touch with my hands, I don’t really care about germs that much, I just don’t even clean the floor, but I regularly clean my table, and my hands, not because it contains germs, its because it is not in a visibly clean state. Heck, I clean my table even when I spill perfectly clean and germ free detergent on it, and I can’t even stand those sanitary gel that you apply to your hands to kill germs off, the sticky feeling is just disgusting to me.
It’s all a question of the surface and the food. I’d pick up an Oreo off a clean tile floor and blow it off, but I wouldn’t pick up a slice of moist lunchmeat off the dirt.
Yeah, but the fallacy here is the idea that the 5 second rule ever had anything to do with sanitation in the first place. The whole point is that you have 5 seconds to eat it without anybody giving you a hard time over eating food off the floor. The germ thing was an obvious smokescreen from day 1.
At least that’s how I’ve always thought of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYXdsOEWBj0
Shouldn’t bugs be more concerned with avians than with the avian flu?
I work at Disneyland. ODV overfills the popcorn cartons, so everyone ends up spilling at least a little bit. Sometimes if mom and dad aren’t paying attention, small children will eat the popcorn off the ground. I don’t blame them. It smells really good.
If you have a dog or a cat the areas where the 5-second rule applies shrinks drastically.
On another note… the Gravatars don’t work since this site started drinking martinis.
well… look at that gravatar… amazing.
First rule of software testing: Whenever you try to show a bug to a developer…
When I’m using a program I expect to fail, I film it. Either it works because it’s being filmed or I have video proof of the failure. Win-win. Until the video recorder fails…
It also depends on the food that is dropped. For me, “dry” type foods (like Oreos) work well with the 5 second rule. Stickier foods (like soft serve ice cream or anything with a sauce), go straight to the trash. It’s more of the “grit factor” rather than concern about germs. I figure germs boost the immune system, whereas the grit is just annoying.
That’s me as well. Also, I have a couple of four legged shedding machines so for me it’s five seconds followed by a thorough inspection/wipe down.
Yeah, anything in this house is covered with cat hair already, so a few germs, eh.
On the other had, my four-legged shedding machine will gladly clean up any food I drop!
I’ve been known to call in the two four-legged cleaning machines from outside to clean up stuff I’ve accidentally dropped on the floor while cooking. *THEN* I wipe it down with paper towel and spray. Why waste good food, is my motto – if I can’t eat it, they can. and will.
Regardless of any research on the matter… I work at a psychiatric hospital. ANYTHING that drops to the floor gets bathed in sanitizer. I wasn’t a germophobe before this job, but it’s slowly creeping into other areas of life. I’m still not as careful about that at home, but it’s still there in the back of my mind like a slowly simmering pot of germ sauce.
The five second rule was actually scientifically disproven, but the same person who disproved it discovered that most kitchen floors don’t really have E. coli all over them.
Actually the kitchen is the dirties rooms in the whole house. When you’re cooking there are tons of bits begin thrown around (boiling, frying, etc) plus any crumbs or drips that occur. So really unless you’re sanitizing your kitchen every time you’re in there, there is gonna be stuff on the floor.
Personally I wouldn’t eat *anything* I found in a disease lab, even if it were in the break room fridge. I don’t think I’d want to even open my mouth in such a place.
“Whew! The 5-second rule almost became the 10-second rule!” Name that movie quote…
u spelled role wrong u spelled it rule dummy!
Wow, I was literally just talking about this an hour ago.
And yeah, even though all the germs that can possibly get on it happen as soon as contact with the floor is made, I’ll still eat it. I think people are a bit overly concerned with germs. But for me it does depend on where, the kind of food, if it touched lint, if it’s a rinse-able…all that stuff.
I even watched a neat video about this recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYXdsOEWBj0
Hmm. There’s probably a way to both highlight the fact that you brought up ebola a year before it invaded the US, AND have it be funny, but I’m comin’ up short, here.