THANK YOU! I was made a supervisor a few months back and still cannot believe the amount of things employees are allowed to do before I can even give them a verbal warning that they might be written up at some point.
It only depends whether your company cares about paying the unemployment. I live in an at will state as well, and remember one time that an employee was rude to a Board member without realizing who he was. It happened on a Sat and they was gone monday.
In most of EU you have to make the employee quit, cause if he/she does not commit a crime fiering someone is very expensive and in some countries its ridiculously expesive…
In the UK, if you act in such a way as to force someone to quit, due to bad working conditions etc. it can be construed as “construction dismissal” and go before a tribunal, as if you had fired without cause.
At my last job we had an employee consistently come in drunk, once during a corporate visit, act in a grossly inappropriate manner towards customers while intoxicated, and she was still working there when I quit. I was nearly fired for not doing literally all of the laundry.
Yup, stabling stuff to your co-workers are merely frowned upon these days, but if you say “You look nice today” to a female co-worker you’ll get sued and probably fired for sexual harassment.
And it doesn’t even have to be the one complemented who files the grievance. My B-I-L got written up and had to go to sensitivity training because he was overheard by a third party being “inappropriate” with a female co-worker – ie laughing and commenting on the off-color comment she’d just made.
Tell me about it. We have employees who are habitually rude to the customers and will at times out-right refuse to do their jobs, but they’re on a contract that makes it so x number of people have to file a written complaint to the main office before the manager can attempt to fire them.
You’re going to need to keep that paper stapled to your face, too. As your employer, my faith forbids removing staples from faces so your insurance doesn’t cover it.
I live in a ‘Right to Work’ state, and they can fire you for the color of your shirt. As long as it states somewhere in your contract that you can get fired for the color of your shirt, they won’t have to pay unemployment either.
True story: In the mid-1980s, Exxon discovered one of its tanker captains had a bit of drinking problem, so they relieved him of command and he sued, arguing that just because he couldn’t control his alcohol intake didn’t mean he couldn’t be trusted with $5billion ship full of oil and that he couldn’t be fired until his drinking actually caused a problem. He won and was reinstated.
A few years later, Exxon found out another captain had a drinking problem but their lawyers advised that given the outcome of the last case, that, it was pointless to fire him.
They were able to fire him eventually, but only after he tied one on and ran the Exxon Valdez into the side of Prince William sound in 1989 spilling a wee bit of oil in the process. Probably histories most expensive drunk driving incident.
Given how unions prevent firing individuals, even when they exhibit signs of reckless and dangerous behavior, I’ve always wondered whether that outweighed the gains in safety they made in other areas of the work environment.
Back when most people did manual labor, much of it dangerous e.g coal mining, I can’t help but think that having a co-worker plastered beside you was more of risk than not having a safety rail.
THANK YOU! I was made a supervisor a few months back and still cannot believe the amount of things employees are allowed to do before I can even give them a verbal warning that they might be written up at some point.
Pshh i got written up cause my pants had a hole in the leg.
Your boss belongs on Not Always Working.
Living in a state with “at-will” employment Panel 1 still applies…
It only depends whether your company cares about paying the unemployment. I live in an at will state as well, and remember one time that an employee was rude to a Board member without realizing who he was. It happened on a Sat and they was gone monday.
In most of EU you have to make the employee quit, cause if he/she does not commit a crime fiering someone is very expensive and in some countries its ridiculously expesive…
In the UK, if you act in such a way as to force someone to quit, due to bad working conditions etc. it can be construed as “construction dismissal” and go before a tribunal, as if you had fired without cause.
Sounds like the union where my mother works. People have literally been caught drinking on the job and not got in any significant trouble for it.
But if there isn’t such a union, then it’s still pretty much like the first panel. You just have to “not be a team player” and you’re gone.
At my last job we had an employee consistently come in drunk, once during a corporate visit, act in a grossly inappropriate manner towards customers while intoxicated, and she was still working there when I quit. I was nearly fired for not doing literally all of the laundry.
Yup, stabling stuff to your co-workers are merely frowned upon these days, but if you say “You look nice today” to a female co-worker you’ll get sued and probably fired for sexual harassment.
Yeah. And end up on a list.
But, it only applies if you’re ugly, apparently.
This is why you need to staple a note on her that says “You look nice today”.
Nope, you can still be ugly if you are FEMALE :/
And it doesn’t even have to be the one complemented who files the grievance. My B-I-L got written up and had to go to sensitivity training because he was overheard by a third party being “inappropriate” with a female co-worker – ie laughing and commenting on the off-color comment she’d just made.
Yup! As BugFan up there! You obviously don’t live in Texas. 🙁
Don’t think you can get away by posting new cartoons!
I’m still sure you’re not serious about not having a girlfriend! ;p
In the bug universe, it ends with being stepped on.
Tell me about it. We have employees who are habitually rude to the customers and will at times out-right refuse to do their jobs, but they’re on a contract that makes it so x number of people have to file a written complaint to the main office before the manager can attempt to fire them.
Thanks– this tells me I should file more written complaints.
The freedom to staple things to coworkers is a crucial religious belief, you know.
You’re going to need to keep that paper stapled to your face, too. As your employer, my faith forbids removing staples from faces so your insurance doesn’t cover it.
I live in a ‘Right to Work’ state, and they can fire you for the color of your shirt. As long as it states somewhere in your contract that you can get fired for the color of your shirt, they won’t have to pay unemployment either.
I can’t believe you can make it all the way through the comments without someone praising the Raggamuffin .n.
I hear that the “Company Picnic” wasn’t too great, anyway. *evil smile*
Panel 3 makes my gibblies hurt.
True story: In the mid-1980s, Exxon discovered one of its tanker captains had a bit of drinking problem, so they relieved him of command and he sued, arguing that just because he couldn’t control his alcohol intake didn’t mean he couldn’t be trusted with $5billion ship full of oil and that he couldn’t be fired until his drinking actually caused a problem. He won and was reinstated.
A few years later, Exxon found out another captain had a drinking problem but their lawyers advised that given the outcome of the last case, that, it was pointless to fire him.
They were able to fire him eventually, but only after he tied one on and ran the Exxon Valdez into the side of Prince William sound in 1989 spilling a wee bit of oil in the process. Probably histories most expensive drunk driving incident.
Given how unions prevent firing individuals, even when they exhibit signs of reckless and dangerous behavior, I’ve always wondered whether that outweighed the gains in safety they made in other areas of the work environment.
Back when most people did manual labor, much of it dangerous e.g coal mining, I can’t help but think that having a co-worker plastered beside you was more of risk than not having a safety rail.