Oh no, the EU isn’t canon! The horror! It’s a shame that was the only positive quality and none of its stories had any good writing, visuals, communities, or memories attached to them. Nope, its only good point, the only sane reason to want to own, read, watch, or care about it is the connection to a series of six scifi movies! With that connection gone, it’s worthless and the authors behind it should just kill themselves for having that connection, the only good part of the their creations, cut off! It’s the end of the world! No new Star Wars products could be as good as a bunch of comics, cartoons, and other media that was basically glorified fan-fiction to begin with and which was repeatedly stated for years wasn’t canon by Lucas himself! Now that it’s been made official and given its own title instead of just being Word of God this is the WORSE! POSSIBLE! THING!!
Actually I hate to disappoint your rant, but it was only non-cannon for the first few years until Return of the Jedi was released. After that George Lucas did cannonise it and all books fell under the auspices of LucasArts. They were carefully monitored and crosschecked by LucasArts to make sure they didn’t conflict with the movies or any other books. George Lucas even set out guidelines for where he wanted the EU to go. He forbid the death of major characters until Chewbacca was killed. He even personally had several of the trilogies written to tell specific back stories. So yes it is a shame the EU is now noncannonised because we not only now have to question everything we once knew but wonder: Will Disney remake the first 6 movies and Non-cannonise them too?
That being said I do look forward to the new movies if only to go this is 1) a proper replacement for the EU I grew up with, carry on… or 2) This is terrible bring back the EU I knew and loved.
Nope, a goatee. That bristly, furry thing below the chin, u no. Afaik a soul patch is that Hitler beard between lower lip and chin, yes?
In the meantime I looked underneath my furniture, and there certainly are tiny furry, bristly [ahem] things … but I’m still not really convinced that those are souls (or even to patch one of those between my lower lip and chin).
My wife’s belief is that there is STAR WARS — not “STAR WARS PART IV A NEW HOPE”, just plain STAR WARS.
And then there’s a bunch of fanfiction.
See, when she first saw it, it just said “Star Wars”, and not the rest of it. Because that was before Lucas had thought of sequels, and definitely before prequels. He has done a pretty good job of re-writing history to get people to believe that he always INTENDED to do other stuff, and that is was ALWAYS supposed to be the middle trilogy of a trilogy of trilogies, but those of us who actually were AROUND for it remember that he’s trying to retcon the real world.
So, watch STAR WARS, imagining that that is the only thing there is. And it is really good as a standalone piece.
“Krieg der Sterne” (a. k. a. “Star Wars”, nowadays ep. IV) ran in Germany in 1977. (I know that, I was there; then dating a couple of girls to see the movie always for the first time (with her). Yes I know, I was a fraud, and I owe Lucas.) As I recall that time, it was widely known back then that Lucas had already the books for nine movies ready but Twentieth Century Fox granted him only the budget for three, so he decided to realize the core trilogy.
Actually, no… it was intended to be the meat of a 9-part story he knew would never fly. I remember after “Empire…” it started being rumored about 3 trilogies.
One thing that wasn’t expected was for the prequels to be done first. Everyone expected 7-9 to be next.
There was even a Bloom County after “Return…” about Jedi Knight Binkley beheading Lucas because “Jedi Knights don’t wait 15 years for a sequel!” Lucas was taunting him by saying the OTHER SIX movies wouldn’t be done before 1998.
This was in 1984… Poor Binkley waited a hell of a lot longer than 15 years.
Yeah. And we were supposed to be landing on Mars by 1995. Right.
Sure, once EMPIRE came around, he came up with that idea. The re-release of STAR WARS with “Episode IV: A New Hope” was done just before EMPIRE.
But when STAR WARS was made, nobody thought that it was going to have a sequel. Fisher, Ford, and Hamill only had contracts for one film. SPLINTER IN THE MIND’S EYE, which Lucas signed off on, has NOTHING in it that matches up with the rest of the stuff.
STAR WARS was written and filmed as a standalone, and Lucas retconned it into being part of a larger story.
The book version of Star Wars is actually quite good; I recommend it. (the rest of the original trilogy, not as much, but better than the prequel movies) It gives a bit more emotional insight into the characters, particularly Luke. But then, I always think books are better than the movie versions.
My husband and 7-year-old son went to see Silver Streak, and the preview of Star Wars was shone before it. Son never mentioned Silver Streak afterward, but was full of Star Wars and couldn’t wait to see it. We ended up seeing it 3 times, and had fun getting the audience’s cheers going on the 3rd one.
I agree with those who enjoyed that movie, maybe the next 2, but not the prequels. The new one doesn’t look like much fun either.
I’d be a whole lot more excited about the new movie if they didn’t seem to be recycling whole elements from the OT. Say what you will about the Prequels (and there are a lot of valid criticisms) but they increased the Star Wars universe in a big way. I watch the trailers for the new one and it’s like, stormtroopers, evil Empire is still kicking around, hey, there’s a Death Star on one of the posters, even.
Personally, I think Disney looked at the backlash against the Prequels and took exactly the wrong message from it.
Thanks, Adam, for making me google Max von Sydow. I’m not a HUGE Star Wars fan, but that threw me for a loop. Might be the first reference in Bug I didn’t get…
“The power of the force compels you! THE POWER OF THE FORCE COMPELS YOU!!!” “You don’t know the Power of the Dark side”. On some of the previous comments, I do suggest they let the hate flow through them. Ok I’ll stop. Ifindtheirlackoffaithdisturbing ok sorry! Sorry everyone. I’m done now.
Define interest. Eye candy, sure, but who, really, is expecting a good film? The only reason I’d pay the ticket price is because the SFX would look better on the big screen, and in truth that’s not much of a selling point these days.
In truth, now that we’ve gone beyond covering trailers, and are covering pre-release fan theories as news, I honestly think the hype is what bleeds away any real interest.
Sure, I’ll probably see it. Twenty bucks for a ticket, popcorn, and soda probably beats staying home abusing the cetacean for free. Either way, I’d prob’ly smoke the same amount of dope, so that expense is a wash.
On behalf of all Expanded Universe devotees who invested years, emotions, and a significant amount of cash in a now-non-canon story, feh.
Oh no, the EU isn’t canon! The horror! It’s a shame that was the only positive quality and none of its stories had any good writing, visuals, communities, or memories attached to them. Nope, its only good point, the only sane reason to want to own, read, watch, or care about it is the connection to a series of six scifi movies! With that connection gone, it’s worthless and the authors behind it should just kill themselves for having that connection, the only good part of the their creations, cut off! It’s the end of the world! No new Star Wars products could be as good as a bunch of comics, cartoons, and other media that was basically glorified fan-fiction to begin with and which was repeatedly stated for years wasn’t canon by Lucas himself! Now that it’s been made official and given its own title instead of just being Word of God this is the WORSE! POSSIBLE! THING!!
Actually I hate to disappoint your rant, but it was only non-cannon for the first few years until Return of the Jedi was released. After that George Lucas did cannonise it and all books fell under the auspices of LucasArts. They were carefully monitored and crosschecked by LucasArts to make sure they didn’t conflict with the movies or any other books. George Lucas even set out guidelines for where he wanted the EU to go. He forbid the death of major characters until Chewbacca was killed. He even personally had several of the trilogies written to tell specific back stories. So yes it is a shame the EU is now noncannonised because we not only now have to question everything we once knew but wonder: Will Disney remake the first 6 movies and Non-cannonise them too?
That being said I do look forward to the new movies if only to go this is 1) a proper replacement for the EU I grew up with, carry on… or 2) This is terrible bring back the EU I knew and loved.
Ah … could growing a goatee also be explained by the absence of a soul?
Btw, what exactly would I look for underneath my furniture? Dunno how (and if) souls are shaped …
A soul Patch?
Nope, a goatee. That bristly, furry thing below the chin, u no. Afaik a soul patch is that Hitler beard between lower lip and chin, yes?
In the meantime I looked underneath my furniture, and there certainly are tiny furry, bristly [ahem] things … but I’m still not really convinced that those are souls (or even to patch one of those between my lower lip and chin).
I should probably watch the original trilogy at some point.
*long gasp lasting several hours*
I might have to watch any Star Wars film at some point
^ This
No Back to the Future comic? I am disappoint.
Star Wars is a good replacement, however.
Does anyone else remember the daily comic strip of Star Wars? It ran for a while in the local paper(s).
It’s hard for me to be enthused about this next installment after the claptrap of the last three.
It might be good. I hear they burn an effigy of George Lucas in the opening scene, so…(hopefully) no more Jar Jar Binks type characters!
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment, my friend.
After seeing the trailer, I’m less enthused about the movie than I was before… This looks like it could be the trailer of any other action movie…
I had the same feeling.
I thought, is Micheal Bay co-directing?
I think someone joked about having a skeleton of jar jar in a desert or something like that. I’ll have to watch the movie a few times to check
Star Wars? Back to the Future? Meh.
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to Bug Martini! Well done Adam; I look forward to the book.
IT WAS ON THE 19TH!
CRAP! I FORGOT TO GET A PRESENT!
Quick! Stall Adam while I put together some elaborate scheme where we pretend our present is late on purpose!
*hilarious mishaps occur – including, but not limited to; someone falling out of a window*
My wife’s belief is that there is STAR WARS — not “STAR WARS PART IV A NEW HOPE”, just plain STAR WARS.
And then there’s a bunch of fanfiction.
See, when she first saw it, it just said “Star Wars”, and not the rest of it. Because that was before Lucas had thought of sequels, and definitely before prequels. He has done a pretty good job of re-writing history to get people to believe that he always INTENDED to do other stuff, and that is was ALWAYS supposed to be the middle trilogy of a trilogy of trilogies, but those of us who actually were AROUND for it remember that he’s trying to retcon the real world.
So, watch STAR WARS, imagining that that is the only thing there is. And it is really good as a standalone piece.
“Krieg der Sterne” (a. k. a. “Star Wars”, nowadays ep. IV) ran in Germany in 1977. (I know that, I was there; then dating a couple of girls to see the movie always for the first time (with her). Yes I know, I was a fraud, and I owe Lucas.) As I recall that time, it was widely known back then that Lucas had already the books for nine movies ready but Twentieth Century Fox granted him only the budget for three, so he decided to realize the core trilogy.
Actually, no… it was intended to be the meat of a 9-part story he knew would never fly. I remember after “Empire…” it started being rumored about 3 trilogies.
One thing that wasn’t expected was for the prequels to be done first. Everyone expected 7-9 to be next.
There was even a Bloom County after “Return…” about Jedi Knight Binkley beheading Lucas because “Jedi Knights don’t wait 15 years for a sequel!” Lucas was taunting him by saying the OTHER SIX movies wouldn’t be done before 1998.
This was in 1984… Poor Binkley waited a hell of a lot longer than 15 years.
Yeah. And we were supposed to be landing on Mars by 1995. Right.
Sure, once EMPIRE came around, he came up with that idea. The re-release of STAR WARS with “Episode IV: A New Hope” was done just before EMPIRE.
But when STAR WARS was made, nobody thought that it was going to have a sequel. Fisher, Ford, and Hamill only had contracts for one film. SPLINTER IN THE MIND’S EYE, which Lucas signed off on, has NOTHING in it that matches up with the rest of the stuff.
STAR WARS was written and filmed as a standalone, and Lucas retconned it into being part of a larger story.
The book version of Star Wars is actually quite good; I recommend it. (the rest of the original trilogy, not as much, but better than the prequel movies) It gives a bit more emotional insight into the characters, particularly Luke. But then, I always think books are better than the movie versions.
Glasses bug had goat legs throughout the whole cartoon, didn’t he? (You can kind of make them out in panel 3.)
My husband and 7-year-old son went to see Silver Streak, and the preview of Star Wars was shone before it. Son never mentioned Silver Streak afterward, but was full of Star Wars and couldn’t wait to see it. We ended up seeing it 3 times, and had fun getting the audience’s cheers going on the 3rd one.
I agree with those who enjoyed that movie, maybe the next 2, but not the prequels. The new one doesn’t look like much fun either.
I’d be a whole lot more excited about the new movie if they didn’t seem to be recycling whole elements from the OT. Say what you will about the Prequels (and there are a lot of valid criticisms) but they increased the Star Wars universe in a big way. I watch the trailers for the new one and it’s like, stormtroopers, evil Empire is still kicking around, hey, there’s a Death Star on one of the posters, even.
Personally, I think Disney looked at the backlash against the Prequels and took exactly the wrong message from it.
Thanks, Adam, for making me google Max von Sydow. I’m not a HUGE Star Wars fan, but that threw me for a loop. Might be the first reference in Bug I didn’t get…
Hmm…. is it possible to keep the goat legs *and* get my soul back? I need my soul for enjoying jazz, but these things are pretty damn cool.
“The power of the force compels you! THE POWER OF THE FORCE COMPELS YOU!!!” “You don’t know the Power of the Dark side”. On some of the previous comments, I do suggest they let the hate flow through them. Ok I’ll stop. Ifindtheirlackoffaithdisturbing ok sorry! Sorry everyone. I’m done now.
The emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
Define interest. Eye candy, sure, but who, really, is expecting a good film? The only reason I’d pay the ticket price is because the SFX would look better on the big screen, and in truth that’s not much of a selling point these days.
In truth, now that we’ve gone beyond covering trailers, and are covering pre-release fan theories as news, I honestly think the hype is what bleeds away any real interest.
Sure, I’ll probably see it. Twenty bucks for a ticket, popcorn, and soda probably beats staying home abusing the cetacean for free. Either way, I’d prob’ly smoke the same amount of dope, so that expense is a wash.
But I’m not expecting a good film.
Star Wars is the one where the jedi fight the borg?
Aaah, futile the resistance is in this one …
I assume that your soul-checking only applies to those who have ever BEEN interested in Star Wars.
Man, this did not age well.